Now a flying school in Arizona does American School of Aviation act

Hi Guys

Thank you for putting up your experience. I am of the opinion that most of the flying schools are scams and an awareness should be created among interested individuals. I am in a similar predicament as you guys. I joined a flying school in Arizona in June and had to withdraw from the school in November as the training was deficient. In spite of having a signed contract I haven’t received the balance back.i. e$23000 which I was to receive on 1 Jan 2009. The school I was training in ain’t bankrupt as yet.

However I am determined to get my deposit back. I would really appreciate if somebody could give me inputs as to how to go about it….

Cindy

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We may have made our mistakes along the way, but we are also humans with a limited capacity… and ASA was a business!

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At least we do not deserve to be stoned all the way. Our main goal was the quality of training, we may have made our mistakes along the way, but we are also humans with a limited capacity… and ASA was a business, a successful business for 6 years in a row. but if the US and countries governments still can’t solve the fuel problems, why did people think we can? Consider this, Six months ago, we went to all the students saying you have to pay an additional $6,000 to $8,000 more for your training, what would have been the response? i personally went to UAE, China to get more profitable business so your families does not have to come up with the additional funds.

I am surprised, that Sasha Puri, Vikram Pawar, Suraj Chopra and Ameya Kameth did not mention to any one, that they paid their tuition in Gurgaon and that ASA in California never got a penny out of it?!! Specially that 3 of them already graduated, now was ASA out to Scam student? How about each one who paid the $2,000 deposit in Gurgaon? And the US never got a penny of it, but all of you got the credit on your account?

Now every one is going after the management, fine, put your self in Prince’s shoes and he admits he is an AW!!

On New Year’s Day, Juana opens up the school and is feeding the fish in the tank; guess what she found in there?
A: HUMAN POOP!!

On a weekend evening, a drunken student pulls the fire alarm (Accidently!!) who had to leave the house to baby sit the reset of the students?

Students playing cricket in the parking lot, using the school’s furniture as goals..
For God Sake, we had to teach students to take a shower before showing up for class!!

Add to that, dealing with the FAA, Mechanics, India, lawyers, accountants, airport management for every little thing that students do!!

Parents, how do I tell a father, that your son is drinking every night and I have an arrest warrant for him? How do I tell your parents, your son is not showing up for lessons because the schedule is too early?! How do we tell them, your son is too busy with the bank teller and does not have time to study?!! Etc…

Here is what happened,
April last year 2007, Gurgaon was shut down costing a lot of money
July, was the last KFA interview
November, KFA staff came to visit to expand the relationship, instead, students complained about the housing and God knows what else, so they did not give a damn and cancelled the tie up!!
Still in November, 17 Students panicked and left the school creating more negative publicity.

Here is a quick lesson in business, if your current customers are pushing your new customers away for whatever reason, you run out of money and eventually your business runs out!!

ASA lost the market in India, even though, over 200 students graduated form there, all of the sudden, every one forgot that fact!!
November, I go to UAE to get some business, I got one student
March I got to China to get some business, it takes time
April I go to Egypt to get some business, we got 3 .

All of that and the FAA is on our tail to shut us down, in 2007, we had 109 inspections, and my question to them, if we were so bad, why did not you shut us down?!! And if we were not so bad, why did you inspect us 109 times?
I still do not have an answer to that, the FAA alone, costed 20% of Prince’s work week just to entertain them!! Why is it, that none of the students asked them that question?

I am sorry the management had to be strict as we did not have time to baby sit adults who were suppose to be in the air lines in a matter of months, I hope your future captains will make sure to tuck you in your seat before you fly!! Our main goal was to make you a pilot because we truly believed that one day thought out your career, the only thing that will save your life is your training, and that was our priority number 1.

They took our airplanes, cars and our house is about to be taken, but no one can take this from us
Our safety record is 100%, 98% of our graduates are successfully employed and satisfied with the training.

Reny Kozman

Civil Matter – American School of Aviation

A file photo of Flight Instructors of American School of Aviation, Atwater, CA

A file photo of Flight Instructors of American School of Aviation, Atwater, CA

Possible code and ordinance violations;

Federal Statutory Code;

Improper aircraft registration
Non compliance with aircraft registration requirement

Improper aircraft maintenance
Non compliance with aircraft maintenance requirement

Improper school operation
Non compliance with P141 school requirement

Improper report, paperwork
Non compliance with AFSP, DHS requirement

Non payment on tax due
Non compliance with IRS requirement

Non payment on employment taxes
Non compliance with IRS requirement

California State Statutory Code;

No aircraft insurance filing
Non compliance with PUC insurance requirement

No payment on employment taxes
Non compliance with EDD requirement

No delivery of services contracted and paid
Non compliance with Business & Professions code requirement

No tuition refund made
Non compliance with DEO requirement

No payment on fuel purchased
Non compliance with Business and Professions Code requirement

Merced County Ordinance;

Unpaid office/hangar, tie-down rent
Non compliance with county lease agreement

Unhealthy dormitory conditions
Non compliance with county health code requirement

Hazardous and reckless operation
Non compliance with airport operations requirement

And perhaps in more possible violations committed by ASA. Any competent lawyer should be able to find an appropriate code, ordinance citation and build a strong enough case against the duo Prince and Reny in a civil court for getting a civil penalty and judgement in their respective case.

Echo Yankee

Criminal Matter – American School of Aviation

What occurred or reported to have occurred at ASA

1. It (ASA) failed to deliver flight training to its students as per the agreement
2. It failed to refund the unused tuition to the students when requested.
3. It operated in violation of numerous Federal, State and local regulations.
4. They (Prince & Reny; owners) lacked moral, professional and business fitness to run a fight school.
5. They defrauded students.
6. They defrauded local merchants.
7. They defrauded local governments
8. They defrauded federal government
9. They endangered the health and welfare of the students and their parents home.

Applicable California State Penal Code

Criminal fraud committed against students
□§532 False pretenses; obtaining money, labor, or property; punishment;

Every person who knowingly and designedly, by any false or fraudulent representation or pretense, defrauds any other person of money, labor, or property, whether real or personal, is punishable in the same manner and to the same extent as for larceny of the money or property so obtained.

□§484b. Diversion of funds received to obtain or pay for services, labor, materials or equipment;

Any person who receives money for the purpose of obtaining services and wrongfully diverts the funds to a use other than that for which the funds were received, shall be guilty of a public offense and shall be punishable by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000) or by imprisonment in the state prison, or in the county jail not exceeding one year, or by both such fine and such imprisonment.

□§476a. Checks, drafts or orders on banks; insufficient funds; intent to defraud; punishment;

Any person who willfully, with intent to defraud, makes or draws or utters or delivers any check, draft or order upon any bank or depositary, or person, or firm, or corporation, for the payment of money, knowing at the time of such making, drawing, uttering, or delivering that the maker or drawer or the corporation has not sufficient funds in, or credit with said bank or depositary for the payment of such check upon such funds then outstanding, in full upon its presentation is punishable by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding one year, or in the state prison.

Crime against creditor
□§154 Debtor fraudulently removing, conveying, or concealing property;

Every debtor who fraudulently removes his property or effects out of this state, or fraudulently sells, conveys, assigns or conceals his property with intent to defraud, hinder or delay his creditors of their rights, claims or demands, is punishable by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding one year, or by fine not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both; provided, however, that where the property so removed or sold or conveyed, or assigned or concealed, consists of a stock in trade or a part thereof, of a value exceeding one hundred dollars, the offense shall be a felony and punishable as such.

□§155 Defendant or judgment debtor fraudulently removing, concealing, or disposing of personal
property sought to be recovered;

Every person against whom an action is pending, or against whom a judgment has been rendered for the recovery of any personal property, who fraudulently conceals, sells, or disposes of such property, with intent to hinder, delay, or defraud the person bringing such action or recovering such judgment, or with such intent the time of the commencement of such action or the rendering of such judgment, is punishable as provide in the proceeding section.

Crime against landlord
□§537 Defrauding innkeepers, etc.;
Any person who obtains any accommodations at apartment house, without paying therefore, with intent to defraud the proprietor or manager thereof, is guilty of a public offense punishable by imprisonment in the county jail for a term not more than one year, or in the state prison.

Most of the above offenses if not all are felony offences each carrying one or more years of imprisonment if convicted. In the ASA case, if the DA is successful in achieving even one criminal conviction, that will land over 100 years in jail time for those convicted. (each one count times a number of victims/students and you get the idea.)

Don’t let the front desk clerk to tell you it’s a civil matter and turn you away. A completed crime report must be accepted and a crime reference number (CRN ) must be issued upon filing. You’re not making any request there, rather you’re making a unilateral filing action. It’s important that the crime report (pleadings in lawyer’s term) is completely prepared in accordance with the county’s criminal procedures protocol. Ask your lawyer if you already have one, if not contact SABA and ask one of their pro bono lawyers to help you prepare a crime report and have it filed at Merced county sheriff’s dept.

Now those are just few of the state penal codes that I came up with for the moment and by doing a little research on my own (I can’t afford a $250/hr lawyer for reading the same law books).

On the Federal statutes violation side, here’re some of the applicable codes under the Title 18 of USC –Crimes and Criminal Procedures that could well apply to the ASA case on the Federal offense side for the feds to pursue.

□§31 Aircraft and Motor Vehicles
□§241 Civil Rights
□§371 Conspiracy
□§641 Embezzlement and Theft
□§1001 Fraud and False Statements
□§1231 Labor
□§1341 Mail Fraud
□§1343 Wire Fraud
□§1421 Nationality and Citizenship
□§1821 Professions and Occupations
□§1951 Racketeering
□§1961 RICO
□§2071 Records and Reports

What needed to achieve a conviction requires only two things like everything else in everyone’s life, desire and strong enough intention (will) to carry it out, the rest will follow.

Report online the duo Prince and Reny’s criminal fraud to FBI also.
FB I Crime Report Form
https://tips.fbi.gov/

Echo Yankee

A student replies to Reny Kozman’s email.

This post is a reply to Reny Kozman’s email which was published in SecondCity. To view that email please go to Story from the other side (part II). Reny Kozman responds to widespread criticism.

Ravi Hegde Writes,

tell me how does this explain the following questions:
1. u take my money in may 08 . and say that u don’t have it in June 08. wherein I have not had any second of a flight.. except for a kit, and some TSA paperwork?

2. that u take money from a student while the school was closed [rahul and arun of my batch], and not returning it.

3. that u keep a girl, Ann, in hostile conditions in your home for some days, not let her meet anyone, tell her school is closed for summer vacations, take her money also..

4. that u say, i don’t have your money and that’s the way how business is done..
welcome to America, welcome to real world.

5. that u say, I DON’T HAVE UR MONEY.. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN.. that i dint give u money to spend on ur camel smokes and beer but for my education.

6. that our parents suffering health problems by hearing to all this.

7. that u not returning our money has jeopardized our careers, our loans that are on mortgaged property, that we have to repay the loan by some other source.. but not utilize it for purpose it was taken for,

8. that we stand to lose our houses and come on streets… and u and Ur partner enjoy a life on some1 else’s hard earned lifetime money and smoke and drink…

if u have legitimate answers to this.. please open up..

ravi hegde.
ravih19@rediffmail.com

I have the news where these students are going to get their admissions for their check ride

Thanks Mr. Bjoy aden for providing the names, IT SEEMS THEY ARE TALENTED AND CLEVER ENOUGH TO PROVE THE FAA AND THE IMMIGRATION TO LOOK LIKE A FOOL.

Two of the names (KAUSHIK & SHIVANI) were a fish trapper for Prince and Renny, they earned a lot by catching innocent students from India and elsewhere and made false promises even when the school was in the brink of extinction, they even said the student’s it was a summer vacation and they would receive a new laptop from the school when it reopens, and the third name (DEEPAK MAHALA) is a great and renowned person in ASA, an alcoholic and a drugs addict who was and is a hired mercenary for Prince and Renny to threaten the students from time to time. A few number of such cases are also registered against him in the Merced county. And about JIM I have no clue why is he still ******** Prince and Renny’s ***, probably he wants some multi hours so he even wants to triple his multi hours on the Dutchees as he was turned down from Cal Air for not meeting his multi requirements for an multi instructor post. They know it very well that with the current status they can complete their requirements but cannot go on with a check ride, so the next thing they will do is to get an I-20 of a school, get new TSA’s and complete their check ride. And probably they will seek a school which is far away from here, may be Arizona, Texas or elsewhere so that their records cannot be traced.

I have full support for the students of ASA who have suffered such heavy losses, and I am getting other people to help them but my sincere request will also be that all the students and the people who are in support should stand up and stop these kind of mean minded people to get away easily, they dont have any sympathy towards the suffered students, they only know their business, they can dance on their own ones graves for getting their work done. As per my information I have the news where these students are going to get their admissions for their check ride, and I will work seriously to see that I can update the concerned school regarding the matter so that they can not escape.

anonymous commentator

ASA students, Please Respond to Mr. Hiren


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